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内容摘要:甜瓜得到的哨子和杜兰特是没法比的,甜瓜很多时候快被打死了都没哨,而杜兰特、哈登几乎一碰就给哨。霍华德、詹姆斯、安东尼、库里怕是联盟得到哨子最少的球员了。看到评论几...

甜瓜得到的哨子和杜兰特是没法比的,甜瓜很多时候快被打死了都没哨,而杜兰特、哈登几乎一碰就给哨。霍华德、詹姆斯、安东尼、库里怕是联盟得到哨子最少的球员了。看到评论几乎一边倒地替甜瓜惋惜遗憾,我只想说一句:甜瓜在林疯狂时期所表现出的胸怀,注定他一生难有大成!,霍华德在沃尔身边,下赛季爆发是一定的,我同意老哥们的观点啊,我是2000年以后的新球迷,我感觉比赛的观赏性正在稳步上升,而且各种篮球技巧也是层出不穷啊。。

【美帝键盘侠】马刺操作烂?甜瓜被低估?冷门观点盘点

[Serious] What is your *ACTUAL* unpopular NBA opinion?

【严肃向】你有哪些真正的非主流观点?

This could be regarding the league or its players today or in the past, and I don’t mean the upvote-attracting opinions. So no “Melo is still good/bad” or “Golden State is good/bad for the league”.

Give me your genuinely most unpopular, likely-to-be-ridiculed, scorching-hot-take opinions.

I’ll start. The current Sixers core is and will continue to be lauded for what it could be, but I don’t think it will ever actually reach its potential and contend for a title.

可以是现代的,也可以是过去的,我不想要那些骗赞的,所以不要说那些“甜瓜依然甜/或者是他已经是苦瓜了”或者“金州勇士对这个联盟好或者不好”这样的话。

我们需要那种真正冷门,最好听起来有些不可思议的观点,而且关注度还挺高的观点。

我先来吧,我认为如今76人的核心阵容还会因为他们的潜力而饱受联盟赞誉,但是我不觉得他们真的能达到所谓的潜力上限,也不能争冠。

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[–]PistonsLunavich 1781 指標 4 天前

I still believe in Dwight Howard and think he can push Washington those few extra steps they haven't been able to take

活塞球迷:我依然相信德怀特-霍华德,我也觉得他就是奇才突破那层瓶颈的拼图。

[–]AlecSpaceLee 557 指標 4 天前

Despite lockroom issues, the man can still put up stats. Yeah he is over the hill, but calling him a scrub is outrageous.

抛开更衣室问题不谈,这家伙在数据上还是不错的,当然他已经走下坡路了,但是说他很菜还是有问题的。

[–]eternalsasuke 408 指標 4 天前

He had a 30-30 game this season

他上个赛季还拿过30+30哦。

[–]Rocketskarim12100 269 指標 4 天前

He’s taking over Gortat’s role and the Dwight can do everything Gortat does much better, with the exception of jump shots and free throws. He’s a major upgrade.

火箭球迷:他接替的是戈塔特的角色,霍华德应该什么都比戈塔特强吧……除了跳投和罚球,毫无疑问这对于奇才是一次完美的升级。

[–][PHI] Allen IversonAndrewHainesArt 217 指標 4 天前

And Wall doesn't hate him (yet)

76人球迷:关键是沃尔还没有开始讨厌他哦。

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[–][BOS] Larry BirdWoodenHammock 1001 指標 4 天前

I think the loose fitting baggy jerseys and shorts look bad.

凯尔特人球迷:我觉得宽松的球衣和短裤真的看起来很垃圾。

[–]CelticsTroyAtWork 294 指標 4 天前

I think the short-shorts and tight jerseys from the 80s CAN be a great look if the wearer is confident and goes all-in. That way you look like this or this and not like this

凯尔特人球迷:如果穿着者自信并且昂首提胸,我觉得八十年代那种短裤以及紧的秋衣看起来非常不错。

[–]76ersTheHeliosNebula 268 指標 4 天前

Part of the problem for the Lakers pic is that their jerseys are baggy and their shorts are short. You can't have both.

76人球迷:这个湖人球衣有一个问题,他们的球衣都很宽松,但是他们的短裤都很短,你不能两者同时兼顾。

[–][DAL] Peja StojakovicJesyouJesmeJesus[S] 842 指標 4 天前

To piggy-back off of this: I actually like the sleeved jerseys

独行侠球迷:借着这个话题再来一句:我挺喜欢短袖版的球衣。

[–]CelticsShahman292 725 指標 4 天前

Wow this is truest unpopular. I personally think the sleeved jersey were terrible.

凯尔特人球迷:哇哦,这个观点是真的冷门,我个人认为短袖版球衣就是灾难。

[–]SupersonicsHaejang-guk 217 指標 4 天前

Some of them were great, others were horrible. Golden State and Cleveland both had good ones, while Boston and Houston had terrible ones that were mostly grey.

超音速球迷:有好有坏,勇士和骑士的都不错,但是凯尔特人以及火箭的就太糟糕了,灰色的元素太多了。

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[–]rizzeck 318 指標 4 天前

Pat Riley has been a pretty bad GM/President since Lebron left and his aura is no longer enough to attract top players. They aren't saavy enough to create a team through trades like Morey nor are they humble enough to tank and acquire picks like former GM Sam Hinke. They are directionless and the bottom is going to fall out sooner rather than later.

帕特-莱利在勒布朗离开之后就是一个很不咋样的经理,他没有足够吸引力去吸引顶级球员,他们也没有像莫雷一样做出天马行空的交易,他们也没能有足够勇气像萨姆-辛基一样摆烂,他们看起来毫无目的,就在不尴不尬的地方一直待着。

[–][BOS] Jaylen BrownSoshi101 84 指標 4 天前

Agreed. Spoelstra and the way he builds team chemistry is the main reason why the Heat haven't fallen out of playoff contention.

凯尔特人球迷:同意,斯波尔斯特拉一手建立了球队的化学反应,这也是热火没能掉出季后赛争夺者行列之中的主要原因。

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[–]Celtics_VZ_ 1927 指標 4 天前

I think Spurs are not blameless in the history with Kawhi and must have done something wrong.

Even though I have no realistic idea about what could it have been.

凯尔特人球迷:我觉得马刺在莱昂纳德这件事情上并不像白莲花般纯洁,他们一定做错了什么。

只是我们没有任何实际的证据去指责他们。

[–]Wizardsireddit270 966 指標 4 天前

I think the Spurs mistake was making Tony Parker the locker room leader after Duncan retired. A lot of former Spurs have pointed to the departure of Duncan as a changing of the guard in the team culture.

奇才球迷:我觉得马刺最大的错误在于在邓肯退休之后让帕克担任球队的更衣室领袖,很多前马刺球员指出邓肯的离开标志着马刺时代的落幕。

[–]Huckleberry_Sin 834 指標 4 天前

Forreal. A dude who goes around banging other team mates wives doesn't sound like a good leader to me.

的确是,一个整天给自己其他队友戴绿帽子的人听起来不像是一个好的领袖。

[–]Wizardsireddit270 517 指標 4 天前

Exactly.. and don't forget this is a dude who regularly hangs out with Chris Brown , and they got into a club brawl throwing bottles at Drake's entourage. I always thought he was a piece of shit, tbh

Parker should never have been made the locker room leader over Manu. There have been quite a few stories about his ego and him having issues with Pop behind the scenes.

奇才球迷:确实……别忘了这家伙经常和克里斯-布朗厮混,他们还在夜店里朝着Drake的随从扔酒瓶,说实话我觉得帕克不是啥好货。

帕克从来不应该在马努之前担任更衣室领袖,他的自负以及场下和波波维奇的矛盾可一直有流言传播呢。

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 423 指標 4 天前

I'll go you one further -- the Spurs have been pretty poorly run overall the last few seasons.

奇才球迷:来个更大胆的——马刺这几年的操作就很烂。

[–]Mdgt_Pope 92 指標 4 天前

Why do you think that?

阁下何出此言?

[–]oakled 539 指標 4 天前

Pau's contract, Patty Mills' contract, loss of Jonathan Simmons

加索尔的大合同,帕蒂-米尔斯的合同,以及放走乔纳森-西蒙斯。

[–]Raptorsrsrsrsrs 215 指標 4 天前

Even reuniting Demar and Rudy. I've been watching Raptors basketball for a very long time and the 2 had the least amount of chemistry I have ever seen.

Oil and water is an understatement. I do believe Pop is the only one that has any chance of making it work, but another side of me says that's a hill way too difficult to overcome and it was lunacy to think it would work at all.

猛龙球迷:我觉得招募盖伊和德罗赞也是烂操作之一,我看了猛龙篮球不少时间了,这两个人的化学反应是我见过最烂的……

油和水这辈子都不能接触,我确实相信波波有可能是唯一一个完成这一壮举的男人,但是我觉得让他们产生化学反应几乎是不可能的,纯属浪费时间。

[–][TOR] D.J. Augustinhastyconch 140 指標 4 天前

Rudy is a way different player than what he was in 2013 to be fair

猛龙球迷:老实说,盖伊现在相较于2013年已经是一个完全不一样的球员了。

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[–]HCX_Winchester 451 指標 4 天前

I think Golden State's best feature above everyone else is off ball movement and not shooting the 3's. They are not even close.

我觉得勇士最强的是每个人都能无球跑动,而不是他们的不讲理三分,在无球跑动上没有球队能接近他们。

[–]Mr_Unbiased 187 指標 4 天前

They haven't been revolved around the 3 since KD got there. That's just an outdated narrative.

他们自从KD来到球队之后就没有围绕三分线做文章了,你这个观点已经过时了。

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[–]Dphelps81 916 指標 4 天前

The NBA in the 90's was not as great as people remember. The era of the big man slowed down the game too much. The games were choppy with no real flow. Playoff series were a foul fest, It was so bad the NBA moved the 3 point line closer to raise scoring from 1995-98. The league was weak at the wing positions while the best two wings in the league (Jordan & Pippen) played on the same team.

90年代的NBA可能被大家过度赞誉了,大个子们把比赛节奏拖慢了,比赛打得零零散散没有啥节奏,季后赛更是犯规不断,后来NBA将三分线提近来促进得分,当年联盟的侧翼简直太垃圾了,最好的两个侧翼(乔丹,皮蓬)还在同一支球队。

[–]Supersonicsjrainiersea 259 指標 4 天前

I think Jordan papered over a lot of the cracks the NBA had in the 90s, which started to show more in the early 2000s after he left. The 3 point and pace revolution of the last few years should make things more sustainable going forward, as long as it doesn't veer too far in the other direction where games get choppy because of too many bricks from 3.

超音速球迷:我觉得乔丹掩饰了NBA在90年代的诸多问题,这些问题在他离开之后的新世纪初期得到了显现,过去几年的三分以及比赛风格的变化确实可以保持,只要别走另一个极端就好:比如三分打铁不断。

[–]I_RAP 157 指標 4 天前

I'll buy this. I didn't start watching until 2000 or so, and I feel like the game has constantly gotten more watchable and more skilled since then.

我同意老哥们的观点啊,我是2000年以后的新球迷,我感觉比赛的观赏性正在稳步上升,而且各种篮球技巧也是层出不穷啊。

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[–][POR] Shareef Abdur-Rahimgrahamtasticj 513 指標 4 天前

I think that the NBA has a huge amount of players that are on PED's. Mainly HGH. I think it's been that way for awhile as well. Why do you think Kobe went to Germany? LeBron and his trips to Miami. Dwight Howard and his whole Magic team. I think the 76ers literally have every rookie shoot up before practice every week.

开拓者球迷:我觉得NBA有很多球员都在服用药物,尤其是生长激素,我觉得这一现象可能已经出现一段时间了,为啥科比要去德国?为啥勒布朗总是要去迈阿密?还有霍华德和他们一整支球队的禁药流言,我觉得76人每周都会在训练之前给新秀们打药。

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[–]Thunderrangersrule1997 1030 指標 4 天前

Indiana and Utah overachieved last season and will have the same record next season at best

雷霆球迷:步行者和爵士上赛季都是超常发挥了,他们可能下赛季最佳战绩也就和本赛季差不多。

[–]Jazzbad_with_stress 292 指標 4 天前

Indiana added a lot of good pieces and didn’t lose much, I think they’re better unless Vic gets worse for some reason.

爵士球迷:步行者得到了很多不错的拼图,除非奥拉迪波下赛季因为某些原因变得很差,不然我觉得步行者会变得更好。

[–]Knicksocamocam 475 指標 4 天前

Indiana drastically improved their roster. KOQ + McBuckets backdoor cuts were some of our best plays last season, and now they'll see that in Indiana, on top of Doug's shooting and KOQ's fantastic play as a back up big. Add in Tyreke as 6man.. theres no way they're worse.

尼克斯球迷:步行者的阵容提升了很多哦,奥奎因+麦克德莫特的空切是我们上赛季最常用的战术,他们现在要出现在步行者了,他们还有麦克德莫特的投射加上奥奎因作为替补中锋,还有埃文斯打第六人,他们没理由变得更烂。

[–]Celticsfro-doh 364 指標 4 天前

Adding McBuckets is hardly drastically improving a roster. The dude is like a 10th man on most teams. Tyreke might be nice though.

凯尔特人球迷:引入麦克德莫特不算啥提升吧,他最多算个球队第十人,得到埃文斯是一笔很棒的操作。

[–][LAL] Shaquille O'NealNoResponsabilities 169 指標 4 天前

You realize that Utah played a lot of games at the start of the season without Gobert, and Mitchell still finding his feet as a rookie, right? What's your reason for Utah overachieving?

湖人球迷:你知道去年爵士有多少场比赛缺少了戈贝尔嘛?米切尔还是个新秀,不是吗?你竟然说爵士去年超常发挥了?

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[–]rushhourIV 826 指標 4 天前*

Melo could've been the #1 option on a championship team. Dirk showed that flawed yet transcendent scoring talents can win provided their roster masks their weaknesses and they go on a supernova hot steak over the playoffs.

EDIT: I never said Melo is on Dirk's level, but let's not act like Dirk could win without a Tyson Chandler type to cover his defensive deficiencies. I'm simply saying Melo was capable of going on a Dirk esque scoring tear in one playoff run in his career, and that would be enough to win if he had the right roster and him.

EDIT 2: Y'all really think that if Melo was drafted by the Pistons, the prevailing opinion would be so negative? He would've played under Larry Brown. He would've had an extremely complementary roster that would mask his defensive deficiencies, and his strengths would've brought Detroit to the next level. The truth is that Melo on that team would've been the #1 option and that team would've been capable of winning a championship, which illustrates my initial point.

EDIT 3: Melo was the key player on a squad with prime Kobe, LeBron, CP3, and Wade (Kobe had the best moment but Melo was certainly the best overall player). He showed that he could unlock a high iq, elite level when in the right situation. Y'all are sleeping on Melo's prime.

我觉得安东尼有机会成为冠军球队的老大的,诺维斯基已经证明了有缺陷但是得分天赋跨时代的球员是可以赢得总冠军的,当然他们的阵容需要掩盖老大的缺陷,并且球队其他球员需要在季后赛里手感热得发烫。

PS:我没说安东尼是诺维斯基的级别,但是请承认泰森-钱德勒帮助诺维斯基遮掩了他的防守漏洞,我只是表达安东尼有能力打出和诺维斯基级别一样的得分表现,只需要搭配一个合适阵容就有希望赢得总冠军。

PPS:如果安东尼被活塞选中,他还会受到如今不堪的风评嘛?如果去了活塞他可以在拉里-布朗手下打球,他有一个互补的阵容来掩盖自己的不足,他的优点将会带领活塞到达另一个级别,事实就是,安东尼可能会成为活塞的第一选择,活塞也将具备夺冠的实力,这就是我要表达的观点。

PPPS:安东尼在巅峰科比、詹姆斯、保罗以及韦德的阵容中担任球队核心球员(科比当时确实是最棒的,但是安东尼总体上却是美国队发挥最优秀的球员),在阵容合理、环境正确的情况下,他展示过自己很高的篮球智商以及精英级别的水平,请不要在梅罗巅峰时装睡。

[–]CelticsITsLoverBoy 298 指標 4 天前

Truly unpopular

凯尔特人球迷:这真是有点非主流了……

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来源:Reddit

编译:万事胜意

安东尼跟诺维斯基的进攻一样?别骗我,去看看2011年季后赛,诺维斯基在肘区或者弧顶拿球后热火队防守的改变吧。(只是拿球哦,还没开始做任何进攻动作)这是单干的毁灭性的能力,今天的杜兰特都还没有达到那个水平。同时,诺维斯基还保留了作为欧洲运动员分享球的高质量,换句话说,他是能让队友更好的球员(其实德克以前是打控卫的,进了联盟也客串过几场控卫),但是卡梅隆从来都不是能让队友更好的得分手。很少在直播吧看到这么多人挺我铁瓜,敢动![笑哭],甜瓜怎么还不签火箭,看到都在讨论甜瓜。心里暖暖的,让我们这一小部分喜欢甜瓜的球迷,不随流的甜瓜球迷,默默守护甜瓜到最后[愤怒][愤怒],(火箭球迷)如果我们的评评论也可以加上喜爱的球队,会不会躁起来[滑稽],布朗抬头瞅了眼新秀甜瓜:小伙子挺俊的啊,多大了?甜瓜:教练我19了。布朗:好的。下赛季坐板凳吧!甜瓜:mmp,我觉得NBA有很多球员都在服用药物,尤其是生长激素,我觉得这一现象可能已经出现一段时间了,为啥科比要去德国?为啥勒布朗总是要去迈阿密?还有霍华德和他们一整支球队的禁药流言,我觉得76人每周都会在训练之前给新秀们打药。我爱甜瓜。


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